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  Married for 30 years

  by nugget in

  1. social
  2. family

  today we celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary and my sons 16th birthday.

  i feel privileged to be able to show my appreciation and love for both the men in my life without feeling guilt.

  we left in 2009 as a family and have not regretted the choice.

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  The Fall Guy

  Congratulations on choosing to live your lives on your own terms!
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  Blonde Jokes

  by Bangalore in

  1. social
  2. humour

  blonde jokes.. two blondes went to the pound where each adopted a puppy.

  the joy of their new best friend was quickly overshadowed when they got home and the first blonde said, "i think we're in trouble, how are we going to tell them apart?

  " this lead to several hours of concentration until finally, the second blonde said, "i've got an idea.

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  A blonde's twin sister repeated the last joke.
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  If the Bible is truly the word of God then why are their so many different Translations ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not only are their different translations from different denominations ,like the greek orthodox ,russian orthodox ,roman catholic .various protestant versions and others as well as the nwt of jw`s.. however various denominations print different versions of the bible which fair enough may only be minor differences yet at the same time they are differences to what they previously printed .?.

  and some have serious discrepancies .. as if they are trying to get to the true meaning of what god or jesus christ actually said or meant ?.

  are they for real ?

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  The Fall Guy

  "Follow the money" is the mantra which inescapably applies to Christianity, regardless of the denomination.

  Christianity is too good a business opportunity to let slip by. People of faith don't control it.

  Menrov nailed it - "faith is not through the written word, manipulation is."

  The money-men dictate how the belief system is designed & followed.
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  Court documents reveal Watchtower's tactics in Montana child abuse case

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there were numerous objections and claims that watchtower lawyers made to try and get out of being held responsible for their negligence and malice.

  here’s the juicy ones:.

  montana is a mandatory reporting state, but watchtower lawyers claimed that the law for reporting abuse only applies to “individuals” and they are “corporations”.

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  Good post LTPF. Thanks.

  @ zeb - "Imagine elders wishing to obtain legal insurance."

  In the UK, trustees of charities are strongly advised to take out personal liability insurance as trustees of charities can individually & collectively be sued.

  I've never met any trustees [elders] in any congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses who even considered protecting themselves in this way.

  You'd think the "faithful slave-master" would protect them by warning them, wouldn't you?
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  Question for elders about child abuse

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  must the testimony of two witnesses of child abuse be them witnessing the abuse as it happens (seeing or hear it), or can it be two witnesses of strong circumstantial evidence as described on the back page of the july study edition watchtower?.

  if the two witnesses must have actually witnessed the abuse take place, how would that work in the two scenarios below?.

  scenario 1.. pioneer johnny has been privately counseled by the elders in the past not to be so “touchy” with kids in the hall, always given them big hugs and the like.

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  The Fall Guy

  If there are not two witnesses or no confession is made regarding a charge of paedophilia, elders are instructed that nothing can be done to the accused. The "two witness" rule must be applied to child-rape!

  Disgustingly, the organization abandons the "two witness rule" when it suits - on two counts:

  a) If two people see a member of the opposite sex entering another person's home and then leaving the following morning, an assumption is made that sexual intercourse has taken place, and both parties will be subjected to a Judicial Committee hearing based upon that assumption - not upon eyewitness testimony!
  

  b) Also, elders can accept the testimony of one witness to a serious sin, if another witness can be found to a similar but separate sin by the same accused person.

  There is a scriptural principle at Deuteronomy 22:27 where no one hears the woman screaming or sees her being raped.
  
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  For active JW's & Faders

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (matthew 28:18) jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has (past & present tense) been given me in heaven and on the earth.

  (1 corinthians 15:27) for god “subjected (past & present tense) all things under his feet.”.

  (1 timothy 6:15, 16) "he is (present tense) the king of those who rule as kings and lord of those who rule as lords, the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.".

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  (Matthew 28:18) Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has (past & present tense) been given me in heaven and on the earth.

  (1 Corinthians 15:27) For God “subjected (past & present tense) all things under his feet.”
  

  (1 Timothy 6:15, 16) "He is (present tense) the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords, the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see."
  

  w05 9/1 p. 27 - Hence, it can truthfully be stated that since Jesus’ resurrection and ascension, “not one of men” has actually seen Jesus.
  

  In view of the foregoing Biblical/literature citations - particularly the WT quote - how can the WTBTS/CCoJW depict this all-powerful personage as a grey haired, bearded, brown eyed white man in a kids animation?

  (6 mins. 40 secs)

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9kj1FlTJ8
  

  Look up the dictionary meanings of 'sacrilege' & 'blasphemy.'

  
  
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  There will be no fifth generation of jw’s in my family.

  by longgone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’m happy to say that, yet as always with the wts there is a price to be paid.

  i’ll explain how this is working out.there’s a new development in the family that’s making the final break possible, and sadly is where the penalty for leaving is going to happen.

  only one person of all the jw family history is left that could start a fifth, he’s my nephew.

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  The Fall Guy

  I feel for you and your nephew's situation, but you both have the support and love of family members who are not controlled by the cult.
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  Brexit - A slow motion train wreck in the making

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's no chance of a good deal.

  so whether it's a bad deal or no deal, both 'leavers' and 'remainers' will be screaming at the disastrous outcome.

  neither side can or will get all that they thought they were voting for.. if another eu in/out vote was taken, expect to see a lot of people change sides.. two points which raise questions imo:.

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  The Fall Guy

  There's no chance of a good deal. So whether it's a bad deal or no deal, both 'leavers' and 'remainers' will be screaming at the disastrous outcome. Neither side can or will get all that they thought they were voting for.

  If another EU in/out vote was taken, expect to see a lot of people change sides.

  Two points which raise questions IMO:

  1) If no hard border is established between Eire & NI, the UK is effectively closing the front door to Europe at Dover, but is leaving the back door wide open in Ireland. (so much for Brexiteers wanting to restrict immigration from the EU)

  2) The Scottish government is now talking about holding yet another referendum on independence, and if successful, would apply to join the EU as an "independent nation."

  Basically, the Scottish National Party will swap the alleged chains of the Westminster parliament for the chains of the Brussels parliament. Independence???
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  What happened to the "New World Order"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so as a child and youth growing up as a witness, (i'm 43 now) we often heard the expression "new world order".. the society just doesnt use that expression anymore.

  so what was the reasoning behind them amending that expression?.

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  These are the latest published references to the org's NWO which I could find on the CD ROM.

  w66 12/1 p. 730 - and the dawning of a righteous new day in which a new world order under the peaceful kingdom of Christ will be ushered in to rule everlastingly.

  g73 10/8 p. 22 - Yet there will be survivors of that collision, and these will take up life in a new world order.
  
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  What happened to the "New World Order"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so as a child and youth growing up as a witness, (i'm 43 now) we often heard the expression "new world order".. the society just doesnt use that expression anymore.

  so what was the reasoning behind them amending that expression?.

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  The Fall Guy

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AqYJlo-Nq0

  Come in Sit down Pull up a chair Speak the truth when you tell me your cares;

  Don't be afraid to talk to your brother Get a hold of yourself an' dry up your tears

  We'll start at the start And end at the end You'll find that your mind might possibly mend

  I'm sure I can help you 'cos you can't help yourself Have you fallen in love again

  Have you fallen in love again ?

  Sister Jane You've gone and changed your name You gotta get out soon

  Before you go insane Before the town starts talkin' And they see you out walkin'

  It sure does seem a shame Yes It sure does seem a shame Sister Jane

  You've gone and changed your name And I suggest you catch The twelve forty five 'plane

  Before the fam'ly finds out Just what you've done And holds you at the point of a gun

  And that ain't gonna be much fun Sister Jane

  We'll talk of the future We'll talk of the past The odds were against you it never could last

  You can't think opinions will change overnight When you know what you've done just ain't right

  You don't mean to tell me you've finally done it You played at the game and you thought you had won it

  And now that you find that you're way out of line Well Some people call it a crime,

  Yeah you really have done it this time

  Sister Jane You've gone and changed your name You gotta get out soon... Sister Jane

  You told me the truth You opened your mind Said I would listen And help you unwind

  My dear Sister Jane you've caused nothing but pain And I really must tell you this time

  I knew all along you had to go wrong In this kind of town you could never belong

  I'm sorry for you And I'm sorry for me This is the way it should end 'cos you've fallen in love again